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Advice for meeting up with someone in person met through an online dating service? I met this girl last week, through the free online dating service plentyoffish.com. She wants to meet in person. I have talked to her online and on the phone, and she seems okay. She lives out of my state, but only a half hour drive away. The strange things is that she says she is 34 lives with her parents does drive, but has no access to a car. I guess I would have to come to her parents house and pick her up and go out somewhere if I decide to meet her. When I have met potential dates before it has always been in public places, where we both brought our own transportation. Since it is the gentlemen thing to do, I will drive with a girl who I met in person before on a date, since I know a little bit more about them. But this situation just seems awkward and uncomfortable for me. I am not sure if I should meet her this way or not. This where I think dating sites are just not cracked up to what they claim and definetly not worth what they charge!

Online dating? please give me advice is it worht trying? just got out of 3 year relaitonship, so im just wondering everyones telling me to look fr someone else to get my mind off of it! but whats aood site to look at for free?

can i have a dating with a guy at the free dating site? who knows if it is reliable? i met a guy at a free dating site www.muslimonly.com/i/joinforfree he invited me to have dinner at weekend. i am afraid if it is reliable through the dating sites online? i need your advice please. contact me

advice about this guy i met online from a dating site....? I need advice about this guy.. Ok, I'm on one of those Catholic match dating site and one guy sent me a message about 3 month ago but in that moment I was dating somebody else and I did not pay attention on his message, almost 1 month ago i email him asking if he still free? and if he likes my pictures ? he answers me..saying- hi and how are you? and how was your day? and for 1 week dissappear I did not hear anything about him until last week he sent me another e-mail asking me how was my day ? how is my job? just hello and no more...I answer his e-mail and he dissappear again... Today he sent me another e-mail saying sorry I had a cold...and how is your day going? and, are you going to celebrate St. patrick's day? I think are stupid questions...I think he is dating another women but maybe he is not sure and he wants to still keeping me in touch like a leash I do not know what I SHOULD do ? if I should not answer anymore his e-mails or... some advice please! thanks!

is online dating safe? I so need a boyfriend... I haven't had one since my first one in high school and that relationship was 5 years ago... I'm 19 now.... I am really shy and I'm rarely the first to speak with anyone (at first).... but when I know someone well enough I love to talk and am very talkative... I am a major tomboy (people constantly compare my style to the young Avril Lavigne) I thought I might try online dating and maybe it'll be easier on me.... but I was hoping to find someone who could give me advice? and are there any dating sites I could join for free? no payments (or strings) attached?

please some advice here! im sick of never getting any responses!? Does anyone know any good (FREE!) online dating sites for the Chicagoland area? Everytime I post on Craigslist it gets flagged & removed for some reason...and Match.com & eharmony are just bull crap.....So If you can help me out please do...and don't judge either Im just sick of being single and am so busy and never have any time to go out and meet people so I figured why not give online dating a shot?!

Online Dating Question... girls mostly.? I tried this online dating site called OKCupid... it's free and people also use it to make friends. I send people messages, not to just go out with them, sometimes its just to make a new friend and I try commenting on either their profile... their picture... or something I picked up from their personality by the way they type. I try complementing them and responding to something they have in their profile but it seems no one ever responds to my messages. I'm new to this so I'm not that good at this... What do girls want to read in their profile or what can I say to someone for them to want to respond to me back? I tried being funny, smart, I tried holding conversations with them and asking them questions but I never get a response... and i'm not going to sound conceaded and say My picture is crazy hott but i'm not ugly. Any advice?

Online Dating: Detailed Answers Needed? I'm a male college student, and I have been considering online dating recently. There seems to be nobody in my area who meets my moral standards or shares my interests. Maybe it's because I'm too serious (both about life in general and about relationships in particular), but there seems to be nobody who is morally or personally compatible with me. Therefore, I think I will try out online dating. I read about OKCupid and eHarmony, which are both free matchmaking sites. Are either of these a good idea for someone who is an intellectual, Christian, extremely conservative, looking for long-term relationships EXCLUSIVELY, and not flirty or looking for someone flirty? Also, it probably doesn't matter...but I'm 19. Even so, like I said, I'm having problems. It's not that I'm unattractive (TONS of girls think I'm "cute" or "adorable"), I'm not out of shape (I get plenty of activity), and I am not some freak (I have plenty of friends). That said, please give me some advice! Yes, I DO intend to try this because my personal standards are too high for most other people--I am a straight-and-narrow sort of person, and looking for the same. As in: I've never consumed alcohol, done drugs, smoked, fooled around, or done anything morally reprehensible. I'm looking for someone who's the same. I feel that online dating is the only way to find someone like myself.

I need some detailed answers about online dating: read before answering? I'm a male college student, and I have been considering online dating recently. There seems to be nobody in my area who meets my moral standards or shares my interests. Maybe it's because I'm too serious (both about life in general and about relationships in particular), but there seems to be nobody who is morally or personally compatible with me. Therefore, I think I will try out online dating. I read about OKCupid and eHarmony, which are both free matchmaking sites. Are either of these a good idea for someone who is an intellectual, Christian, extremely conservative, looking for long-term relationships EXCLUSIVELY, and not flirty or looking for someone flirty? Also, it probably doesn't matter...but I'm 19. Even so, like I said, I'm having problems. It's not that I'm unattractive (TONS of girls think I'm "cute" or "adorable"), I'm not out of shape (I get plenty of activity), and I am not some freak (I have plenty of friends). That said, please give me some advice!

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Met a guy online...Need advice!? Hi. I'm 19 and i met a 21 year old guy on a free internet dating website. He lives near to me, and we've been chatting on msn for a while. He asked for my number and has basically been texting me...non-stop since then. I feel suffocated. I'm meeting him tomorrow for lunch for the first time.. and i'm scared. He's really nice, and we get on well but....argh. I've never been in a relationship before, and i don't think he's v good with the women either haha... But i duno whether to give him a chance and see how things turn out or not.. Any ideas? Thanks.

Why is it so hard to find someone to go out with? Im probably the average guy...in his 20's, has a good job, clean, healthy, and good looking. Im not someone who really likes to go out a lot, meaning to clubs, bars and dont party til 3am type of person. I bodybuild year round, am in excellent shape, eat great and love it. I know I have all the qualities a women wants, handsome, nice, generous, humor, etc. I tried online dating a few times, either by paying for it or just using the free trial. That was a waste because no seems to respond, ( and yes I did have pictures). My question is, what is going on? It seems like if im not drinking everynight getting drunk and going to parties I wont be able to meet anyone. Is this true? I dont think it is? What should I do, go out to malls, walk around town? Any advice will help, thanks.

How to attract and keep the "Mr. right" intereted and weed out Mr wrong? i have trouble meeting the nice guys that are relationship material. I always get approached by the bad guys and etc. I am also really nice so sometimes i think i am a little too nice when dating. i dont really know how to make a happy medium between the two ( nice and not so nice). I am also a homebody alot of the time so its hard for me to meet the type of guys i like, and i am too shy to approach ( i am not good with rejection). So i will have guys approach me on my daily errands, and they not exactly what i want....there is always something major wrong with them. So lately i have been trying this online dating thing. I met this puertorican guy for drinks at a bar. he owns a salsa dance studio in the area of which he is very passionate about. His personality so far is amazing, and i am surprised. I cut the date short because i had to study, but he gave me a kiss on the cheek and bid his goodbyes. Later that night, i was lil confused on whether he was interested so i sent a very short email just letting him know i had a good time and that he was attractive. he sent me one back saying he was " more than pleased with me", thought i was beautiful, and would love to see me again. he gave me his home number to call him. But whats the next step? I sent him an email back ( replied 2 days after receiving his first, didn't want to seem desperate) saying that whenever he has free time to just give me a call cuz i know he is really busy with the studio. I am wondering what are the dating rules in this situation to keep him interested and not seem desperate, but also not make him think i have lost interest, and to get to know him better and see if we click. When i like someone i tend to get a lil overly excited and do most of the calling. I dont want to do that anymore cuz i WANT to be pursued. Give me good advice that WORKS please. Also i am struggling with finding my own style....i am girlie but when i go into a department store i have trouble trying to find clothes that fit my body i am curvy like beyonce with a very small waist. What styles are good for this body type without dressing like a hoochie??? I just turned 24 and i really want to look sexy but sophisticated..thanks i usually dont follow dating rules, because i believe in being yourself; however most men like the chase.......so i decided to abide by these rules......i guess previously i didnt put up much of a chase.

What are the best online dating sites??! :)? What are some great online dating sites? Would appreciate people who have had experience, and would love to hear real life stories. Are there any great free sites? Paid sites? Any advice on how to jump into online dating...? Thanks!

Kinda blind date? Yeah, well I have a date on Tuesday with this guy I met on PlentyOfFish.com. It's a free online dating site, so I figured "why not?" To be honest, I've never done this before. I've always at least SEEN the guy in person before going on a date with him, so this whole Internet dating thing is kinda weird to me. But I'm trying to be open-minded. He and I started emailing for a spell, then we chatted on the phone a couple times before setting the date. He seems nice, but I'm not having any expectations. I guess my question is do any of you have any advice for this? What topics of conversation should I have up my sleeve for potential "awkward silences" (that's my main question, I guess). He and I are meeting somewhere, and it's in public (a restaurant), so it should be safe. But what do I do to ease the weirdness? Thanks!

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Desperately Lonely After High School? Im finished school, I have no friends at work, I don't have time to take any extra college courses, I go to the gym, I walk my dog. I hate online dating sites - They all just want money. Im not even sure im comfortable using them, and on top of that free sites like Craigslist seem to only be for people who want to have sex with strangers... I don't have time to volunteer anywhere - i work 60 hours a week. So... How can i make friends, or find a new girlfriend if none of the above are available to me? Im a decent looking guy, why the hell am i so alone. Seriously? Im new at this, but ... how do people find love? get married? start families? meet friends? Nobody else seems to have a problem with this, but im working my ass off, and even on my spare time i can't seem to figure it out... Its maddening, and i don't even want to get up in the morning anymore because im so by myself all the time.. On weekends i just sleep all the time because i know i have nobody to see. My old friends are NOT interested in seeing me anymore - even if they did live in the same state as i do. I want to get married. I want to build a life with somebody. All the girls I have met are so interested in drinking themselves to death it makes me sick. Nobody I meet is serious about life. Its just a big game... Party, Party, Party, I don't want to do drugs,and get drunk... I want to advance in my life. I hate clubs, I hate bars... I hate ditsy women. If anyone has any useful advice i would be ever so great full.

*****DaTiNg******? Okay here's the skinny: I met what seems to be a great guy online (still have to get to know him) and we chatted for a little over a month via. IM. On Friday we started talking on the phone, things went really well. On Sunday he sent me a text saying "Good Morning" I text him back and we text each other a couple more times when I decided to just call him if we were going to have a conversation. He didn't answer, so I text him back, feel free to call me if you get a chance later. A couple hours later, he sent a text just saying he was running around all day, and he will call me when he gets home... But, he never called. Last night I sent him a short but sweet text just saying: I hope you had a great day. NOW... we are suppose to have a date on Friday night (no real plans but it was mentioned last Friday while we were talking.) I have already decided I will not call/text until he calls or text me. But what should I be thinking? Any advice on this one guys or gals? I'm 24, he's 31.

Really Lonely After High School? Im finished school, I have no friends at work, I don't have time to take any extra college courses, I go to the gym, I walk my dog. I hate online dating sites - They all just want money. Im not even sure im comfortable using them, and on top of that free sites like Craigslist seem to only be for people who want to have sex with strangers... I don't have time to volunteer anywhere - i work 60 hours a week. So... How can i make friends, or find a new girlfriend if none of the above are available to me? Im a decent looking guy, why the hell am i so alone. Seriously? Im new at this, but ... how do people find love? get married? start families? meet friends? Nobody else seems to have a problem with this, but im working my *** off, and even on my spare time i can't seem to figure it out... Its maddening, and i don't even want to get up in the morning anymore because im so by myself all the time.. On weekends i just sleep all the time because i know i have nobody to see. My old friends are NOT interested in seeing me anymore - even if they did live in the same state as i do. I want to get married. I want to build a life with somebody. All the girls I have met are so interested in drinking themselves to death it makes me sick. Nobody I meet is serious about life. Its just a big game... Party, Party, Party, I don't want to do drugs,and get drunk... I want to advance in my life. I hate clubs, I hate bars... I hate ditsy women. If anyone has any useful advice i would be ever so great full.

How do you stop a divorce/save a marriage? Any advice or free web links? Married 2.5 years, together 9 (dating+marriage) I was asked to leave the house a week ago I went through a depressed/ill period, where I gave up and stopped trying to do anything My husband's "friends" and family called me a "parasite". Now he has started believing them and is SOOOO bitter against me. I don't want what he has, if I never got a thing out of him again, other than love, I would be happy. But,...he will barely even talk to me, maybe a minute, litterly. I read online above all not to argue, and to just kindly agree with anything he says. Does that work??? If so, or not, What (else) does? I don't want to lose my Best friend, marriage, home, pets, etc... Help!

A guy is sending mixed signals - should I still pursue him? A guy I've been talking to online for a while has been trying to get us to meet. When I finally became free, last week we set a date for tomorrow. However, since that time he's never mentioned the date again. I've been online since and we spoke but he never brought it up. Is it rude of him to do that? I'm pretty sure he didn't just forget, since he's been pursuing me for a long time and was very eager to meet, so I'm thinking it has to be something else, but I don't know what. Technically, tomorrow we're supposed to have our date but since he hasn't said anything about it to me this week, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I'm not sure if I should ask him about it or take it as he's changed his mind. I'd appreciate some advice, thanks.

Need a good place to meet women online around my age to get more dates? i am 26 years old and i am in denver colorado. i do not like the bar scene and i was wondering if there was any good places on the internet on where to meet and talk to women for free. Craigs list is beat to crap, all that ever happens is you get spam in return. and never any real responses and it did not used to be like that. SO essentially i am looking for a place online who are single or are looking for someone else where i can talk to them for free. thanks for your time and advice 26 / m / denver colorad feel free to mail me happyx4never(at)yahoo(_dot_)com lavalife is not a free website

please advice on relationship from mature people who can help me out!!!? she started dating someone off and on for 4 years. finally she met me and started dating june 13. idk what we were thinking but we talked about having a baby immediately. so we had sex and tried getting pregnant. a month later july 27 she found out she was pregnant. she told me she was shocked because she had a miscarriage october of 07, and thought she just cudnmt have a baby at all period. so was this a experiment on me? why me if so? i had to go to school and jen said she wud move with me to support me. up until the week before i left it was cool, then she laid it on me that she didnt wanna go, and made up excuses that she didnt wanna live with 3 other guys and she wanted to stay near her family. so i almost didnt graduate and finish my dream but i fought through it and graduated. while i was at skool it was hard to focus because she had my mind screwed up. I would drive home then back then home then back numerous times. when i would drive home she would only see me when she wanted to. i drove 3 and a half hrs, which i didnt wanna do, and she decides she wud take a nap before seeing me. if i drive home make the commitment to see me. i saw a counselor to help me through the trouble and even got my medicine changed and it helped. i started getting my feelings under control. at school she would talk so nasty and her mouth was unbelieveable. their was no making my point clear b/c she would come back with some obnoxious comment or remark that really hurt a sensitive guy like me. it took alot out of me and stressed me out. let me take you back before i left for school. we were at a stop light and i planned on finishing school via online. we were at a red light and she says "im so happy everythings going my way." thats selfish isnt it? we went to the casino for a night which my mother treated us to a nice accomodated room, if that wasnt enough i wake up and see she had talked to her ex bf for a half hour a couple nights ago WHICH she forgot to tell me about. i bought into it seeing how they just broke up. i come home to visit a weekend and i see they were texting. obviously i was upset and told her to leave. instead of trying to make me see differently, she nicely, got up and left and didnt say a word. wouldnt you fight for the one you love.? so i then tell her to quit her job trying to be there for her. i didnt want her workingh in that type of environment. i told her i would take care of her threw her pregnancy which i did. one night we werrent feeeling the baby, she wanted to wait till the next morning to call the doc but i took it upon my self to bring her right then and there. even i had to work at 9am the next morning in manlius, a half hour drive. for her birthday i paid over $2,000 in her bills so she would be stress free and we could start a clean slate and she wouldnt have to worry about not having money, but still to this day im called an asshole and fake. one night before school she told me she wud be over to my house after she went to her friend yo yo's. well was she rly even there? b/c she never came over and didnt even call to tell me that. so as im skipping around here i forgot to mention i asked her how this decision even came about. she said we decided to get pregnant when we were drunk. i asked her if she regretted it then she said she will never regret the baby but she wished she wud of gotten to no me a little bit more. we didnt get to no e/o until she got pregnant. i am always very respectful to her parents and they like me. she doesnt give mine the time of day and im a family guy, thats a problem. she said she doesnt no who my mom is but she isnt gonna kiss her ass, shes 66! have some respect. she was into drugs bad in her day and had problems like got kicked out of the house. i straightened her out a little but she is very selfish. yeah she does clean the apartment and make me dinner but i work full time and pay the rent, utilities, groceries, and cable phone and internet, something i cant do alone.she keeps talking bout how she cant wait to go out and drink once the baby comes out. she doesnt wanna go anywhere in public w me but when we fight she goes anywhere with whoever. if i dont spend 24/7 with her she gets very emotional and blames it on me. i have a lil bro i chilled w my whole life and i spent the weekend w him and she says i never have any time for her anymore she says. we live together hows that possible. i work all day and wanna watch the game, ill b in the living room shell b in the room watching lifetime or some boring program, if she wants to spend time she can come accompany me in the living room. she is so down on her self whenever i tell her shes beautiful she comes back with she has a double chin and shes fat. i hve doner this and complimented her for 8 months but its gets old when she doesnt appreciate it. however she thinks is how shell act. its all her her her. she like gangsters and i have turned into be a respectful young man and that must n

I have a some questions for bi-sexual girls or lesbians, can you help answer them? I'm 34 and have had a boyfriend for almost 8 years now. We are growing apart. Our relationship is very stressful. Since I was a teen, I've found myself attracted to women. I did "experiment" in college but didn't date any women. If my bf and I split, I'd like to try dating a woman but I don't know how to meet any! I really don't want to go to a gay bar (I live an hour from Chicago) and just "hook up". What are some other ways? I'm preety but I am feminine, would both "butch" and "girly" (I hope these terms are not offensive, if they are, please tell me the correct terms) women, possibly find me attractive? I'm also very shy at first around both women and men, is that a problem? I'd love to find a woman who loves animals just as much as I do and someone I can talk to about anything (this is not the case with any man I've ever dated). Please give me any advice you have! What about free dating services online, are there any good sites? Or is this a bad way to meet someone?

make/break relationship !! ..SERIOUS HELP needed,sorry for the longest question:( ..but SINCERE ADVICE,URGENT? I would like to add, that his family is yet not aware of us. Secondly, its not that he got this marriage issue up because I was forcing him for this or something, I in fact never thought about it initially, He himself got to discuss this with me, when he realized that we were getting serious, and on the other hand his parents were looking for a bride for him (though he is not getting married before 2 more years). So, it was he himself, who confessed in and said initially, when he for the first time tried avoiding me.I WOULD WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING, IF ANYBODY OF YOU WANTS TO KNOW SOMETHING MORE, OR YOU HAVE A QUESTION IN MIND , THEN PLEASE WRITE IT, I'L ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN "ADD DETAILS" , AND PLEASE , RESPOND BACK AGAIN :) (i faced this, when i posted the question last time, there are people asking questions, so i would answer them here, you please respond again after reading the details again. ) Thank you!!! SORRY AGAIN FOR THE QUESTIONN BEING TOOO LONG .... THNX :)

Can anyone help me with my boyfriend? I never thought I'd ask for dating advice online, but I never thought I'd need advice this badly. I've been dating this guy, we'll call him Bob, for a year and a few months. Bob and I have always gotten along, he's my best friend and my favorite person in the world. I've been through everything with Bob: death of loved ones, serious injury, being away for weeks at a time, some minor fights..basically anything a couple goes through, we've been through. We've always made it out a stronger couple than before, but it's because I've always been the one who gets hurt. Bob has broken up with me twice, once in December and once in January. Both times he's told me he "just doesn't feel a relationship anymore," then called me crying a few hours later telling me he was dumb and can't live without me. Bob is 18, and I'm about to turn 16. He's going to college soon, but he's only going to a University a few minutes from my house. Bob also has recently decided drinking makes him look cool. I trust him with all my heart, I KNOW he wouldn't ever cheat on me. The past 3 weeks he's blown me off Friday AND Saturday to go hang out with his college buddies so they can party. I don't want to be the girlfriend that nags and tells him he can't party and do what he wants, so I don't ever say anything to him. I know he understands that he's been hurting me by doing this, but I don't think he understands just how much it hurts. He says things like "I got so wasted last night, that party was crazy. College is going to be great. Get drunk, pass out at 3 am, wake up at 10, then do it again!" That bothers me. It makes me wonder if it's going to be like this all the time when he's in college. I don't know any of the people he's at these parties with, so I don't know if other girls know about me. They could be hitting on him, and my drunken Bob could be flirting heavily back. I don't want to ask him if he does, because I've done this before and all he did was get mad and say "If you don't trust me, this isn't going to work." But I DO trust him, I just don't trust drunken Bob around girls that are probably really attractive. There are a lot more stories I could tell about him getting drunk, but I don't want to give our identities away, so I'll leave it at that. The past 3 weeks I've gone out with my friends to go bowling, see movies, or just hang out somewhere to get him off my mind, but I always end up crying myself to sleep wondering what he's doing. I'm so tired of feeling this way every single night, but I know breaking up would hurt--after all, it's happened twice before. I just don't know which pain would hurt worse, being without him and him being free to do whatever he wants with other girls, or having him but never seeing him because he likes to brag to all his friends that he got drunk at a college party. He doesn't appreciate how lenient I've been with him, and I'm tired of being the one who spends her nights alone and crying while he's out having a good time without me. He went to a college 2 and a half hours away on Friday night to party. He was supposed to come home Saturday night and spend it with me, but he decided he wanted to stay where he was and party another night. He comes home today and I've been thinking about breaking up with him, but I don't think I'll be able to. When he does finally make time for me, he makes me happier than anyone else in the world. He's exactly like me, and he always knows exactly what to say to make me laugh. I love being with him, but I hate the way he hurts me and doesn't care. I don't know what to do anymore... I've talked to family and friends, but they just say to dump him. They're too close to me though, they don't like seeing me hurt, so naturally they'll say that. I need the opinion of some people who don't know us. Thanks for reading this, I know it's long. All comments are appreciated, but try to remember that I'm only telling you about one of the bad sides of our relationship. We've had a year of amazing times together that would be hard to forget, and he really is an amazing guy. He never forgets anniversaries, brings me flowers randomly, is a gentleman to me, and we've been voted cutest couple I don't know how many times. I lost my virginity to him also. I know I'm young, but when you've had a relationship as amazing as the one Bob and I have had, you trust them with your whole heart. I never expected him to break it like this... What should I do?

i need real advice and help with this situation, please help!!!? she started dating someone off and on for 4 years. finally she met me and started dating june 13. idk what we were thinking but we talked about having a baby immediately. so we had sex and tried getting pregnant. a month later july 27 she found out she was pregnant. she told me she was shocked because she had a miscarriage october of 07, and thought she just cudnmt have a baby at all period. so was this a experiment on me? why me if so? i had to go to school and she said she wud move with me to support me. up until the week before i left it was cool, then she laid it on me that she didnt wanna go, and made up excuses that she didnt wanna live with 3 other guys and she wanted to stay near her family. so i almost didnt graduate and finish my dream but i fought through it and graduated. while i was at skool it was hard to focus because she had my mind screwed up. I would drive home then back numerous times. when i would drive home she would only see me when she wanted to. i drove 3 and a half hrs, which i didnt wanna do, and she decides she wud take a nap before seeing me. if i drive home make the commitment to see me. i saw a counselor to help me through the trouble and even got my medicine changed and it helped. i started getting my feelings under control. at school she would talk so nasty and her mouth was unbelieveable. their was no making my point clear b/c she would come back with some obnoxious comment or remark that really hurt a sensitive guy like me. it took alot out of me and stressed me out. let me take you back before i left for school. we were at a stop light and i planned on finishing school via online. we were at a red light and she says "im so happy everythings going my way." thats selfish isnt it?we went to the casino for a night which my mother treated us to a nice accomodated room, if that wasnt enough i wake up and see she had talked to her ex bf for a half hour a couple nights ago WHICH she forgot to tell me about. i come home to visit a weekend and i see they were texting. obviously i was upset and told her to leave.instead of trying to make me see differently, she nicely, got up and left and didnt say a word. so i then tell her to quit her job trying to be there for her. i didnt want her working in that type of environment. i told her i would take care of her through her pregnancy which i did. one night we werrent feeeling the baby, she wanted to wait till the next morning to call the doc but i took it upon my self to bring her right then and there. even i had to work at 9am the next morning, a half hour drive. for her birthday i paid over $2,000 in her bills so she would be stress free and we could start a clean slate and she wouldnt have to worry about not having money, but still to this day im called an asshole and fake. one night before school she told me she wud be over to my house after she went to her friends. she never came over and didnt even call to tell me that. so as im skipping around here i forgot to mention i asked her how this decision even came about. she said we decided to get pregnant when we were drunk. i asked her if she regretted it then she said she will never regret the baby but she wished she wud of gotten to no me a little bit more. we didnt get to no e/o until she got pregnant. i am always very respectful to her parents and they like me. she doesnt give mine the time of day and im a family guy, thats a problem. she said she doesnt no who my mom is but she isnt gonna kiss her ***, shes 66! have some respect. she was into drugs bad in her day and had problems like got kicked out of the house. i straightened her out a little but she is very selfish. i work full time and pay the rent, utilities, groceries, and cable phone and internet, something i cant do alone.she keeps talking bout how she cant wait to go out and drink once the baby comes out. she doesnt wanna go anywhere in public w me but when we fight she goes anywhere with whoever. if i dont spend 24/7 with her she gets very emotional and blames it on me. i have a lil bro i chilled w my whole life and i spent the weekend w him and she says i never have any time for her anymore she says. we live together hows that possible. i work all day and wanna watch the game, ill b in the living room shell b in the room watching lifetime or some boring program, if she wants to spend time she can come accompany me in the living room. she is so down on her self whenever i tell her shes beautiful she comes back with she has a double chin and shes fat. i hve doner this and complimented her for 8 months but its gets old when she doesnt appreciate it. however she thinks is how shell act. its all her her her. she like gangsters and i have turned into be a respectful young man....so she says i kicked her out and i told her maybe a few days apart would be good but now shes saying she has to do what she got to do for the baby and her i have begged her back she said i did this to her and she now wants her own place and ill hav

Make/break relationship..SINCERE ADVICE PLEASE.sorry for the longest question :(but SERIOUS ADVICE ASAP,URGENT I would like to add, that his family is yet not aware of us. Secondly, its not that he got this marriage issue up because I was forcing him for this or something, I in fact never thought about it initially, He himself got to discuss this with me, when he realized that we were getting serious, and on the other hand his parents were looking for a bride for him (though he is not getting married before 2 more years). So, it was he himself, who confessed in and said initially, when he for the first time tried avoiding me.I WOULD WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING, IF ANYBODY OF YOU WANTS TO KNOW SOMETHING MORE, OR YOU HAVE A QUESTION IN MIND , THEN PLEASE WRITE IT, I'L ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN "ADD DETAILS" , AND PLEASE , RESPOND BACK AGAIN :) (i faced this, when i posted the question last time, there are people asking questions, so i would answer them here, you please respond again after reading the details again. ) Thank you!!!

Any advice on how to meet guys? I am a 21 year old Christian nurse who works full time at a local hospital on a floor that mainly has patients ages 50 to 90 years old. I am also a full time student working on my BSN. Obviously, I do not have any real free time. When I do have some free time, I would really like to have someone to go out and have fun with. Generally, I would go with friends but all of my friends either are in a relationship or have moved away, and all of my classmates/co-workers are much older than me and have their own families and such. I have tried the online dating thing without any luck, and all of my friends claim I am "too good" for the few single guys they know and will not attempt to set me up with any of them. I don't mean to be arrogant but I do not see where a guy would not like hanging out w/ me b/c many of my patients and friends tell me how attractive I am and how much fun they have with me. Any ideas or advice on how to meet guys to go out with would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! Thanks for the advice! I just wanted to add that yes I am a member of the Church I have attended my whole life (which is the only Lutheran Church around here) and I am the ONLY person between ages 18 and 35. lol. and my school, everything is online so I meet/see no one. The classmates I was referring to are those who I just happen to know through discussion boards and stuff for the classes.

Mature adults only - I need advice. I met a guy online that I found really cool. After we met once, he? wrote me saying that he found me really attractive but because i wasn't "free and clear" from my x (we brought it down a notch to just date) he didn't want to see me. He said he didn't want to take a chance on seeing anyone and have the girl end up going back to the x. So I explained to him that as of the other day, my x and I are through. We aren't even dating now and that he had left the country to "find himself". (What kind of BS is that??!!) Find himself? I shouldn't given him a mirror. Sorry, a tangent, anyway, so this guy said that he wanted to think about it and then let me know. I told him that was fine and he knew how to get in touch with me if he was interested. Now, here's the question ... it's only been 3 days and I am really eager to hear from him. Although I think I know the answer to this question, would it be bad if I went ahead and either emailed, text, or called him or should I wait on him?? By the way, he's 36 and I'm 31.

How Many of these Moderators are on the Purdue Cytometry Mail List? Author Topic mlinde Member United States 17 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 : 6:21:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I was wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have any experience with either of these programs? The other option would be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments, suggestions? rakeshverma Member United States 93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 : 10:46:54 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have used CellQuest. Its a good option. Antonio68 Member Germany 20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 : 11:48:43 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version for the moment is quite better. lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1028 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 : 4:59:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD relied on Macs for so long. mlinde Member United States WI 17 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 : 5:44:55 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1028 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 : 1:22:04 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions. Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it). Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can. Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM PLapierre Senior Member Canada 242 Posts Posted - February 11 2008 : 7:49:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For PC a i think WEASEL is the best free alternative. I haven't tried many but there any many alternatives Author Topic mlinde Member United States 17 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 : 6:21:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I was wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have any experience with either of these programs? The other option would be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments, suggestions? rakeshverma Member United States 93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 : 10:46:54 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have used CellQuest. Its a good option. Antonio68 Member Germany 20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 : 11:48:43 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version for the moment is quite better. lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1028 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 : 4:59:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD relied on Macs for so long. mlinde Member United States 17 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 : 5:44:55 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1028 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 : 1:22:04 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions. Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it). Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can. Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM PLapierre Senior Member Canada 242 Posts Posted - February 11 2008 : 7:49:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For PC a i think WEASEL is the best free alternative. I haven't tried many but there any many alternatives anyway.. Author Topic mlinde Member United States 17 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 : 6:21:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I was wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have any experience with either of these programs? The other option would be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments, suggestions? rakeshverma Member United States 93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 : 10:46:54 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have used CellQuest. Its a good option. Antonio68 Member Germany 20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 : 11:48:43 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version for the moment is quite better. lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1028 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 : 4:59:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD relied on Macs for so long. mlinde Member United States 17 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 : 5:44:55 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1028 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 : 1:22:04 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions.Author Topic mlinde Member United States 17 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 : 6:21:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I was wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have any experience with either of these programs? The other option would be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments, suggestions? rakeshverma Member United States 93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 : 10:46:54 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have used CellQuest. Its a good option. Antonio68 Member Germany 20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 : 11:48:43 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version for the moment is quite better. lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1028 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 : 4:59:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD relied on Macs for so long. mlinde Member United States 17 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 : 5:44:55 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1028 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 : 1:22:04 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions. Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it). Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can. Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM PLapierre Senior Member Canada 242 Posts Posted - February 11 2008 : 7:49:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For PC a i think WEASEL is the best free alternative. I haven't tried many but there any many alternatives anyway.. Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can. Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM PLapierre Senior Member Canada 242 Posts Posted - February 11 2008 : 7:49:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For PC a i think WEASEL is the best free alternative. I haven't tried many but there any many alternatives anyway.. Flow Cytometry Plus Microscopy "The visualpower of microscopy plus the statistical rigor of flow cytometry rolled into 1 package." That's the company's tag line. And they deliver. LOVETHELAB?************ I'm a BD flow lover, a confirmed Mac user (I tell everyone "I don't do Windows"). So why am I touting a machine made by Amnis that requires Windows? Because this instrument goes above and beyond mere flow cytometry- it shows you every event (that's cell to non-flow users) in detail. I used it and I am sold. It takes a single experiment now to do intracellular localization, in place of two. A simpler caspase activation assay. What's not to love? Even the computer quandary is solvable (the one feature I'd change: I'd have it run off a Mac) - with an Intel Mac; just get Parallels software, install Windows, and you are good to go, or rather, run. And the ImageStream can run off an Intel Mac this way too. I bought an Intel iMac just for analysis. Installation of Parallels was easy, IDEAS is about as intuitional as any flow software package. And Amnnis reps bend over to be helpful. Don't let the price tag scare you; rather, help write a shared- instrument grant (we did) for your institution to get one. It is simply amazing. Review by lovesthelab ************************************************** ************************************************** ***************************** lovesthelab Senior Member United States 807 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 : 1:22:04 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Science Advisory Board Home | Forums | My Profile | Active Topics | Members | Search | News | Resources | Studies | About Us | Site Map Screen Name: Password: Save Password Forgot your Password? All Forums Software Flow cytometer analysis on PC Printer Friendly Author Topic mlinde Member United States 11 Posts Posted - February 03 2006 : 6:21:13 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm looking into flow cytometer analysis programs for the PC and I was wondering whether anyone had any insight into which programs were the most useful and worthwhile. From what I have seen, Flow-Jo and FCSexpress are the more commonly used PC programs. Does anyone have any experience with either of these programs? The other option would be to purchase another Macintosh and use CellQuest. Advice, comments, suggestions? rakeshverma Member United States 93 Posts Posted - February 04 2006 : 10:46:54 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have used CellQuest. Its a good option. Antonio68 Member Germany 20 Posts Posted - May 01 2006 : 11:48:43 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can use Summit from Dako is free and gives you the possibility to do offline compensation. However, the best flow cytometry software is FlowJo. There is a PC (Java based) and a Mac version. The Mac version for the moment is quite better. lovesthelab Senior Member United States 807 Posts Posted - July 06 2006 : 4:59:46 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not a PC person, but am an ardent flow person. My flow friends with PCs swear by WinMidi, which is free. If you Google for free flow cytometry software, you'll come to 2 sites, one at UMass, one at Scripps. Lots of free analysis software for the PC, maybe because BD relied on Macs for so long. mlinde Member United States 11 Posts Posted - August 02 2006 : 5:44:55 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? lovesthelab Senior Member United States 807 Posts Posted - August 09 2006 : 1:22:04 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an update, I tried trial versions of FCSexpress and FlowJo and wasn't really happy with either of them compared to Cell Quest. I found FCSexpress almost impossible to work with. FlowJo was alright, but I don't think I had the time to really get the software down. Anyone know if BD ever plans to put out CellQuest on PC? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions. Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it). Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can. Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM rgrant Moderator Australia 2364 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 : 02:34:47 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, it took me about 30 seconds to discover that Mitchell Haynes is VP Sales at Kanecki - see http://www.kanecki.com/about.html Admin, this is blatant advertising (MH started this thread yesterday). -- "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg rwintle Advanced Member Canada 4710 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 : 10:49:46 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AND SOMEBODY TELL HIM TO STOP SHOUTING. khenwood67 Administrator United States 248 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 : 11:03:53 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've deleted the topic that he started, and also deleted his post in this forum. He won't be posting on the forums again. Kathryn Henwood Membership Coordinator The Science Advisory Board k.henw...@scienceboard.net Printer Friendly Jump To: Select Forum Et Cetera Humor in Don't quote me, but I do believe that CellQuest is available for PC because the newer BD flow cytometers are digital and use PCs for acquisition. Mlinde, have you ever tried WinList or WinMidi? Both of those were written for PCs. Also WEASEL comes in PC and Mac versions. Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it). Mlinde or anyone else, you can contact me through the SAB e-mail system if you want to discuss flow software or anything flow some more off the forum. I'll be glad to help if I can. Edited by - lovesthelab on August 09 2006 1:24:07 PM ********************************************** rgrant ************************************************** *********************** Moderator Australia 2364 Posts Posted - October 10 2007 : 02:34:47 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, it took me about 30 seconds to discover that Mitchell Haynes is ******************************************* VP Sales at Kanecki - see http://www.kanecki.com/about.html Admin, this is blatant advertising (MH started this thread yesterday). -- "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg ************************************************** *************** WELL I MUST BE SHOUTING SINCE THIS IS IN CAPITAL LETTERS. WHO IS ON THE PURDUE CYTMETRY MAIL LIST OR WAS THAT MAKES THESE COMMENTS? DOES PURDUE *********MANAGE THE SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD? Admin, this is blatant advertising (MH started this thread yesterday). THE DISCLAIMER JUST POPPED UP FOR SCIENTIST SOLUTIONS PUCL PURDUE CYTOMETRY MAIL LIST **********MANAGES**** THE DISCUSSIONS..... ARE PEOPLE GETTING INFLUENCED ANSWERS WITH LEADING QUESTIONS TO PROMOTE SOFTWARE? SAME PEOPLE IN SAME CONVERSATIONS Mitchell Haynes is ******************************************* VP Sales at Kanecki - see http://www.kanecki.com/about.html Lovesthelab Did you read the flow perspectives? There is a software discussion there. (Disclosure-- I wrote it). So why is she giving referrals on software? ???????????? WHO CAN YOU GET HONEST ANSWERS FROM WITH *********NO INFLUENCE???? ****** General Flow Cytometry Resources Purdue University Cytometry Laboratory Website Start learning about flow cytometry on the web at this site. The most comprehensive flow cytometry and analytical cytology website I have found. You will find resources ranging from archived protocols to request forms for the latest protocols CD-ROMs - and they are free while supplies last. Job listings, meetings, journals, latest developments- it is all here. Lectures Website Dr. J. Paul Robinson, Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine, has put a compilation of lec-ture slides on a website. Some of the information is bullet statements, but the pictures are great. If you've never seen a flow cytometer, you'll see lots of them here. If you are new to flow, you'll find in-troductory slides here. Practical Flow Cytometry, Fourth Edition by Howard Shapiro, published by J. Wiley & Sons, 2003. Website Dr. Shapiro has kindly put his textbook online through Molecular Probes. It is free! Yes, you do need to register to see it, but that's all you need to do, and you have access forever. Flow Cytometry E-mail Discussion Group Website Have a question? Novices to experts, all levels of questions are welcome. This e-mail group has been invaluable to me. E-mails are archived and can be searched by topic. International Society for Analytical Cytology Website The premier society for flow cytometry, it publishes Cytometry Parts A and B (Clinical Cytometry), Case Studies in Clinical Flow Cytometry, and Current Protocols in Cytometry. These are available on-line, but you must be subscribed for access. Regular dues are US $126; fees are deeply dis-counted for students, post-doctoral fellows, and scientists from developing nations. Please consider joining. National Flow Cytometry Resource, Los Alamos National Laboratories Website Where the cutting edge happens. NFCR runs a course every June that alternates between Los Ala-mos and New England. I recommend it to the serious flow person; you will learn a tremendous amount, including how to build your own flow cytometer, if you are so inclined. FlowCyte Website This discussion group is dedicated to flow users interested in developing uniform bioinformatics standards. They are also developing analysis and statistics software for flow users. SUCH A LARGE LIST TOOOOOO ALL GOES BACK TO J PAUL ROBINSON JUST GOOGLE PURDUE CYTOMETRY MAIL LIST YOU WILL FIND ALL YOUR MODERATIORS PROBABLY WENT THROUGHT THE LIST Re: mr on Apple web site * This message: [ Message body ] [ More options ] * Related messages: [ Next message ] [ Previous message ] [ In reply to ] [ Next in thread ] From: J. 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Dec 14, 2006 ... Dr. Beverly Barton of the New Jersey Medical School, USA and Dr. Richard Wintle of The Centre for Applied Genomics, Toronto, Canada were the ... http://www.scienceboard.net/communit.../news.314.html - 23k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this Posted by Mitch Haynes On Mar 3, 11:20*pm, Mitch Haynes <mitchhay...@gmail.com> wrote: PLapierre Senior Member Canada 262 Posts Posted - February 11 2008 : 7:42:43 PM Show Profile Visit PLapierre's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply to Topic What do you think is a better platform for bioinformatics, i think it use to be mac (Dnasis, etc) but i think its changing, i m happy that Intel mac can run windows now! What do you think? Kannan Senior Member India 188 Posts Posted - February 12 2008 : 12:26:48 AM Show Profile Visit Kannan's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Let it be MAC or PC. The software should be compatible.Go to Top of Page rgrant Moderator Australia 2514 Posts Posted - February 12 2008 : 01:08:26 AM Show Profile Visit rgrant's Homepage Send rgrant a Yahoo! Message Send rgrant an instant message Reply with Quote Reply Unix. Every time. -- "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg Go to Top of Page Nexins Advanced Member Germany 2631 Posts Posted - February 12 2008 : 03:34:26 AM Show Profile Visit Nexins's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Unix = Mac OSX. no need to comment more. -- 'Work should not interfere with the quality of life' -Dr. Alex SavovGo to Top of Page Ana Laura Senior Member Argentina 351 Posts Posted - February 12 2008 : 3:28:00 PM Show Profile Visit Ana Laura's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Why would anyone infect a Mac with Windows?Go to Top of Page rgrant Moderator Australia 2514 Posts Posted - February 12 2008 : 6:05:10 PM Show Profile Visit rgrant's Homepage Send rgrant a Yahoo! Message Send rgrant an instant message Reply with Quote Reply Sometimes, Ana, it is unfortunately unavoidable. Doesn't mean I have to like it. A bit like public transport, really. -- "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg Go to Top of Page jooly Senior Member United Kingdom 740 Posts Posted - February 12 2008 : 6:26:32 PM Show Profile Visit jooly's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Note: I am resolutely not having anything to do with this debate.Go to Top of Page rgrant Moderator Australia 2514 Posts Posted - February 12 2008 : 8:05:25 PM Show Profile Visit rgrant's Homepage Send rgrant a Yahoo! Message Send rgrant an instant message Reply with Quote Reply And we love you for that, Jooly -- "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg Go to Top of Page lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1032 Posts Posted - February 13 2008 : 10:08:25 AM Show Profile Visit lovesthelab's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: Why would anyone infect a Mac with Windows? **SIGH** Because certain imbecile flow cytometry software executives made the executive decision to release acquisiton/analysis software for Windows only. We hates it. Ruins the Precious, it does. been there, done that more times than I care to admitGo to Top of Page PLapierre Senior Member Canada 262 Posts Posted - February 13 2008 : 11:27:33 AM Show Profile Visit PLapierre's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Did BD biosciences change their FACS platform from Mac to PC? That would be a shame, i can already see myself rebooting the FACS every 10 minutes Go to Top of Page rchen Member United States 8 Posts Posted - February 13 2008 : 1:02:33 PM Show Profile Visit rchen's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Most softwares are PC based , though few in Mac for special instrument vendors.Go to Top of Page lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1032 Posts Posted - February 13 2008 : 2:52:37 PM Show Profile Visit lovesthelab's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: Did BD biosciences change their FACS platform from Mac to PC? That would be a shame, i can already see myself rebooting the FACS every 10 minutes **BIG SIGH** Yes. See FACSDiva on the web. Imbecile is being kind. Also see Winlist, Amnis IDEAS software for ImageStream. The Precious calls. been there, done that more times than I care to admitGo to Top of Page Ana Laura Senior Member Argentina 351 Posts Posted - February 13 2008 : 4:30:54 PM Show Profile Visit Ana Laura's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Nice Macs Nice Fishes Nasty Windowses Edited by - Ana Laura on February 13 2008 6:38:48 PMGo to Top of Page rgrant Moderator Australia 2514 Posts Posted - February 13 2008 : 8:41:11 PM Show Profile Visit rgrant's Homepage Send rgrant a Yahoo! Message Send rgrant an instant message Reply with Quote Reply *HOWLS* of laughter. (My iMac's name on the network, coincidentally, is 'Gandalf') -- "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg Go to Top of Page PLapierre Senior Member Canada 262 Posts Posted - February 14 2008 : 10:07:44 AM Show Profile Visit PLapierre's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Cool!!! They should use this in an mac ad!Go to Top of Page rwintle Advanced Member Canada 4965 Posts Posted - February 14 2008 : 11:53:44 AM Show Profile Visit rwintle's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply I'm with jooooly on this debate, but I am also howling with laughter at Ana Laura's post . -- "There is another way of putting this. But I forgot it." - Pier Giorgio DiCiccoGo to Top of Page lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1032 Posts Posted - February 14 2008 : 1:43:50 PM Show Profile Visit lovesthelab's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! Ana Laura, can you send me a jpg (signed by you, of course) so I can hang it up in my new office? been there, done that more times than I care to admitGo to Top of Page lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1032 Posts Posted - February 14 2008 : 1:45:23 PM Show Profile Visit lovesthelab's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: Most softwares are PC based , though few in Mac for special instrument vendors. Most does not equal best. been there, done that more times than I care to admitGo to Top of Page PLapierre Senior Member Canada 262 Posts Posted - February 16 2008 : 09:05:25 AM Show Profile Visit PLapierre's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: quote: Most softwares are PC based , though few in Mac for special instrument vendors. Most does not equal best. been there, done that more times than I care to admit Aint that the truth! the amount of useless and crappy software available for windows is mind boggling!Go to Top of Page lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1032 Posts Posted - February 16 2008 : 8:23:09 PM Show Profile Visit lovesthelab's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: *HOWLS* of laughter. (My iMac's name on the network, coincidentally, is 'Gandalf') -- "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg My iMac at home is Galadriel, my daughter's iBook is Arwen, my iMac at work is Elrond, and my iPod is of course Frodo. Our network at home is Rivendell. been there, done that more times than I care to admitGo to Top of Page Ana Laura Senior Member Argentina 351 Posts Posted - February 16 2008 : 8:58:13 PM Show Profile Visit Ana Laura's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply So you have an iFrod Go to Top of Page rwintle Advanced Member Canada 4965 Posts Posted - February 17 2008 : 09:55:31 AM Show Profile Visit rwintle's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: My iMac at home is Galadriel, my daughter's iBook is Arwen, my iMac at work is Elrond, and my iPod is of course Frodo. Our network at home is Rivendell. [sigh] My laptop's network ID is "XPWS-15" or something like that. Danger of having to have the institutional IT folks set it up, I guess. -- "There is another way of putting this. But I forgot it." - Pier Giorgio DiCiccoGo to Top of Page Nexins Advanced Member Germany 2631 Posts Posted - February 17 2008 : 11:31:06 AM Show Profile Visit Nexins's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: ... Our network at home is Rivendell. sweet. good to know for wardriving. -- 'Work should not interfere with the quality of life' -Dr. Alex SavovGo to Top of Page lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1032 Posts Posted - February 17 2008 : 4:56:32 PM Show Profile Visit lovesthelab's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: quote: ... Our network at home is Rivendell. sweet. good to know for wardriving. ? Online game? been there, done that more times than I care to admitGo to Top of Page Nexins Advanced Member Germany 2631 Posts Posted - February 18 2008 : 03:47:11 AM Show Profile Visit Nexins's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: ? Online game? no, dear. hacking your WiFI access point at home . it's called 'wardriving'. just kidding - i was planning for Baltimore, not for Newark -- 'Work should not interfere with the quality of life' -Dr. Alex SavovGo to Top of Page PLapierre Senior Member Canada 262 Posts Posted - February 18 2008 : 09:32:27 AM Show Profile Visit PLapierre's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: quote: *HOWLS* of laughter. (My iMac's name on the network, coincidentally, is 'Gandalf') -- "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg My iMac at home is Galadriel, my daughter's iBook is Arwen, my iMac at work is Elrond, and my iPod is of course Frodo. Our network at home is Rivendell. been there, done that more times than I care to admit You re a lot more imaginative than me, my network is named NETGEAR and my computers are named PC-1, PC-2, etc.. Go to Top of Page Nexins Advanced Member Germany 2631 Posts Posted - February 18 2008 : 11:45:08 AM Show Profile Visit Nexins's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: ... my network is named NETGEAR and my computers are named PC-1, PC-2, etc.. s/he just cries to get hacked! wardrivers of the world, unite -- 'Work should not interfere with the quality of life' -Dr. Alex SavovGo to Top of Page lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1032 Posts Posted - February 18 2008 : 12:52:59 PM Show Profile Visit lovesthelab's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: quote: ? Online game? no, dear. hacking your WiFI access point at home . it's called 'wardriving'. just kidding - i was planning for Baltimore, not for Newark Have to know the password and I know you'll never guess it. Nor will anyone outside of my family. 3 firewalls are up. paranoid, we are. been there, done that more times than I care to admitGo to Top of Page jooly Senior Member United Kingdom 740 Posts Posted - February 18 2008 : 2:31:19 PM Show Profile Visit jooly's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply I'm guessing it's either JRRTolkein or silmarillion Go to Top of Page rgrant Moderator Australia 2514 Posts Posted - February 18 2008 : 3:50:14 PM Show Profile Visit rgrant's Homepage Send rgrant a Yahoo! Message Send rgrant an instant message Reply with Quote Reply Mmm, but if PLapierre's network is still called 'NETGEAR' then the password is easily guessable. -- "I don't have a lot of use for Coldplay most of the time" -- rwintle http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/rpg Go to Top of Page jooly Senior Member United Kingdom 740 Posts Posted - February 18 2008 : 4:14:52 PM Show Profile Visit jooly's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Well... ours is called Belkin something or other, and it's fully password protected. Unfortunately (being a cheap and nasty belkin) it gets horrifically unstable if we try to change too many settings on it, like assigning an SSID or using MAC address control. If I'd paid for it, I'd be demanding my money back, but it came with the house.Go to Top of Page PLapierre Senior Member Canada 262 Posts Posted - February 18 2008 : 5:06:50 PM Show Profile Visit PLapierre's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply Ok As of 16:54 PM Eastern Time, my Network is now called er7tr6re7e98r6987re6e9r8t. Somehow i feel more secure now Go to Top of Page jooly Senior Member United Kingdom 740 Posts Posted - February 18 2008 : 5:12:39 PM Show Profile Visit jooly's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply 'Tree' would be just as secure, methinks. Right, bed now. Getting up at 4am (GMT)Go to Top of Page Quicksilver Member United Kingdom 73 Posts Posted - February 19 2008 : 05:26:34 AM Show Profile Visit Quicksilver's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply resisting the urge to tell everyone you meet would be even more secureGo to Top of Page lovesthelab Senior Member United States 1032 Posts Posted - February 19 2008 : 09:19:22 AM Show Profile Visit lovesthelab's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: I'm guessing it's either JRRTolkein or silmarillion Nothing even remotely Tolkien. heh heh heh... been there, done that more times than I care to admitGo to Top of Page PLapierre Senior Member Canada 262 Posts Posted - February 19 2008 : 3:14:31 PM Show Profile Visit PLapierre's Homepage Reply with Quote Reply quote: resisting the urge to tell everyone you meet would be even more secure Oops... http://www.scienceboard.org/forum/to...Title=Software SO GLAD WE HAVE EDUCATION IN THE FORUM

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Help with researching family history! Please help!? I have most of the names going back to my great great grandparents. I also have a few historical events through talking with family that actually happend. Now what's next? How do I find official newspaper articles and other documents that I can print or copy? Any online resources would be better because not all of my family lives and came from the state I live now. Where can I find free public records (Companies charge but if it's public I know it should be free.) of my relatives dating back 1900 - back? Any advice and resources would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance.

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Lately dating always seems to end up with just being friends...? Hey, I'm 27 and I've had serious relationships before, but I started looking again recently after being single for over a year and it seems like every woman I meet is really into me at first, but then a week to a month later she drops the "I think we'd be better off as friends" bomb. I consider myself attractive, financially secure, very respectful, and mature. I usually meet people online, but not always. Last person I was dating decided seemingly overnight that she didn't have those "feelings" for me (in a dating sense, not love- I know that takes time). We had dated about 2 weeks and talked for about a week online beforehand. I know it wasn't because of someone else because she still wants to spend most of her free time with me as friends. She also said that she wasn't sure if her feelings would ever change for me. I just seem to have a hard time making it past dating lately. What gives? Too clingy? Is there a such thing as being too nice? Any advice would be appreciated!

serious advice/opinions please .? well , to give a brief summary of my situation : im gay but in the closet , i have a best friend for the last 4 years now - who recently has made me think he isnt my best friend , for too many reasons to mention . but i have been /a m in in love with this friend for the past 4 years - we always go out but not so much recently- i dont know why .i have been trying to figure out if he is gay or not even though a situation arose when he said he wasnt gay - but for some reason it didnt sound convincing ( maybe im in denial ?). the thing is he is 23 now - still has never had girl friend , im his only really close guy friend . he never talks about girls to me, never mentions anyone even when i ask - he says he doesnt know and doesnt know when he will go on dates ( which i respect fair enough but dnt normal ppl think of this, gay or straight and dnt they talk bout it ?? especially to your best friend) . i have gone crazy bout him for so long that im fed up now and want to move on , bcos i get hurt all the time , when i think maybe he is gay and maybe he likes me too but then he has his moods where he doesnt talk to me , sometimes i can just tell something is wrong but he never says anything , he doesnt even talk to me when we go out together in a group of friends when he has those moods .we have been out just the two of us - but i could never tell if he was or liked me romantically .he is unbelievably good looking and he knws that !so getting a girl wnt be a problem . the other thing is im not white and he is white - so might that be the problem ? o , he has made all these new friends at a function he went to , mostly guys that all txt him on face book and he always txt back - im getting jealous but i cant and dont want to but i cant help it bcos i feel i have been put aside now ,so i need to move on and thats why i need ur help!!!! please! but now i want to move on bcos i wasted alot of my time last year and i cant do this again , i wan tto be in love with someone who would choose me and tell me ( i undertsand its a prob if im not out ) that they want to go out with me . i think i have wasted too much time on this guy - but for some reason he is all i think about day and night , i feel he has gripped my heart and when i try to move away or move on - it hurts so bad !! i need serious help , so if u have any ideas pleas let me knw , especially if its an online therapist or realtionship helper thats for free - whom i can email! my story is long and evn more complicated but ic ouldnt put it all here. o , i also dnt knw what im going to do when he does actually fall in love / start going out with another guy or girl ! i knw that makes me really pathetic but i knw its going to happrn and im just going to die - so i need to be prepared! this is for' who knows then:' i understand what u saying but thats why i said its more complicated , i was his friend in the begining and still am thats why it hurts so much - i knw it sounds like im just after him cos he is hot bt its more than that .he doesnt knw im i gay ( i am in the closet) . i said im tired bcos i keep going in circles thinking bout him all the time and trying not to feel that way bout him knowing that its possible he might not feel that way bout me . it does sound like im using him but i always mad a rule never to fall for friends and then this happened to me!?!?! i also know if he really is my friend i should just talk to him- but im too scared and afraid - which makes me even more pathetic.i value your honesty and being real - thanks !

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**** ? on Dating****? Okay here's the skinny: I met what seems to be a great guy online (still have to get to know him) and we chatted for a little over a month via. IM. On Friday we started talking on the phone, things went really well. On Sunday he sent me a text saying "Good Morning" I text him back and we text each other a couple more times when I decided to just call him if we were going to have a conversation. He didn't answer, so I text him back, feel free to call me if you get a chance later. A couple hours later, he sent a text just saying he was running around all day, and he will call me when he gets home... But, he never called. Tuesday I sent him a short but sweet text just saying: I hope you had a great day. NOW... we are suppose to have a date on Friday night (no real plans but it was mentioned last Friday while we were talking.) I have already decided I will not call/text until he calls or text me. But what should I be thinking? Any advice on this one guys or gals? I'm 24, he's 31. I couldn't fit this part in: so after my text on Tuesday evening. Nothing so far from his side. The only thing I can think of is he is having some challenges with his brother and is a bit busy at work. But no reason to not quickly text someone back. Esp. when he said he would call me Sunday evening. Part of me says, let it go don't worry about it. But the other part still would like to meet him. With the fact that we have no definate plans, I really can't get mad about that, if it doesn't happen. Why do guys OR girls do this stuff? I think part of me just wants the truth, is he not interested? If not then why did he text me after our phone conversation. Obviously he felt our phone conversation went well also. So I don't know, but what do ya'll think?

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Moms and daughters: Please give me your opinion? My parents divorced when I was 18, I am now 29. My dad met and married my step mom 1 ½ yrs later. My mom has never remarried. She has had a few relationships, but 2 were with married men, 1 had kids still in high school that my mom didn’t want to deal with, and 1 lived 3 states away and my mom constantly complained about the distance (even though she knew it when she met him). The past year or so she has been meeting men online. She feels it necessary to tell me about every single guy she goes out with, including some of the intimate details, even though I have told her as nicely as I could that I really don’t want to hear about this. She is going out with at least 3-4 different men a week, and bringing quite a few home and having sex with them. She even went to some guys house and had sex with him, and left before his wife got home. If we have a family get together at someone’s house, she either leaves early cause she has a date with another guy or she gets on their computer to check her e-mail to see if she has had anymore guys contact her. She hardly ever spends time with her kids or grandkids anymore. She has actually forgotten plans that she had made with one of the grandkids, because she made plans with someone else. She made plans to pick my son up tonight and keep him till Monday night to spend some time with him. She called Friday to say she was picking him up that night instead, my husband and I thought that she just wanted to spend more time with him. No, it was cause she wanted to make plans for Monday. She would rather spend her free time going out on dates , than to spend it with her grandkids. She has made promises to them that she has forgotten about, but the kids haven’t forgotten. I can not keep track of the men that she is dating cause there are just too many of them. None of which she has wanted to introduce to her family. Knowing all this, here is what happened to make me ask advice. I lost my temper after finding out the reason she changed plans with my son, and I bluntly told her what I thought about her lifestyle. I will admit, that I probably was a little to harsh and said some very hurtful things, but I had reached my boiling point with her. I told her that I was ashamed over her lifestyle, that I didn’t want a mother who slept with any guy who met, and I didn’t want my kids to have a grandmother like that. I told her that my kids had a right to have the same kind of grandma that I had (my moms mom) who wanted to be around her grandkids frequently, went around asking “Are you hungry honey? You want me to fix you something to eat?”, baked, sewed and quilted. (Ok, I know that was a little overboard.) Well, she handed the phone to my aunt who lives with her, and who knows first hand what my mom is doing, and wouldn’t talk to me anymore. My aunt completely agrees with me and has nicely tried to say the same things to her. I know I probably got a little too upset and said something’s that I probably wouldn’t have said if I were not so mad. But can anyone see what I got so upset about? And what is your advice to do now?

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19 year old girl in need of advice on a new relationship...? Hi, like I said I'm 19 and I just met a great guy about a week ago. We had a wonderful first date and he called me the next night to chat for about 45 minutes. He told me to feel free to call the next day, so I did and we talked for the same amount of time. Now, aside from online chatting, we haven't talked on the phone. I don't know if I should call him or wait. And worse... does this mean he's losing interest? He definitely seemed into me whenever we talked but now that it's been a few days I'm starting to worry. I'll give out 10 points to the most helpful answer!

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NOTE: Lotteries, banks, government agencies and any but the smallest of companies do not normally use such addresses. Criminals use them to anonymously send and receive email at Internet cafes. coordinator.eaas2006@hotmail.com awardepartment2006@myway.com barristermoh_hamza2006@hotmail.com DISCLAIMER: While we try to give appropriate advice in the greatest number of cases, we must decline responsibilty for any mistakes that may occur. We encourage you to do your own research on the internet (for example, search on Google) and using other information sources. Get informed, talk to people you trust (your family, friends, your bank, local police) and then act accordingly. Click here to submit another email for checking or here for fraud-related links. Here is the text you submitted: Yahoo! Mail Welcome, samynik57 [Sign Out, My Account] Mail Home - Help Mail | Addresses | Calendar | Notepad Options Check MailCompose Search MailSearch the Web Get quick info w/ Y! Shortcuts Folders[Add - Edit] Inbox Draft Sent Bulk[Empty] Trash[Empty] All occasion greeting cards! Translate with Y! Babel fish MEETIC & YOU Love in 1 click Previous | Next | Back to Messages Call or Instant Message DeleteReplyForwardSpamMove... Printable View This message is not flagged. [ Flag Message - Mark as Unread ] From: "ZONALCOORDINATOR EAAS" <coordinator.eaas2006@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book To: awardepartment2006@myway.com Subject: WINNING NOTIFICATION(not bulk) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:43:37 +0000 FROM: MRS. STELLA ROBERT E.A.A.S Lottery Headquarters: Customer Serv 580 N. Tenth Street Sacramento, CA 85914 Euro - Afro Asian Sweepstake Lottery an Affiliate of Foundmoney International Arena Complex Km 18 Route de Rufisque I.P.P Award Dept. Amsterdam Netherland. We happily announce to you the draw of the Euro - Afro Asian Sweepstake Lottery International programs held on the 10TH August 2006 in Amsterdam Holland.Your e-mail address attached to ticket number: 577 7443925 L77 which subsequently won you the lottery in the 3rd category.You have therefore been approved to claim a total sum of US$250,000.00 (Two Hundred and fifty Thousand United States Dollars)in cheque. This is from a total cash prize of US$2,500,000.00 Dollars,shared amongst the first Ten (10) lucky winners in this category. Please note that your lucky winning number falls within our Asian booklet representative in Jakarta Indonesia as indicated in your play coupon.In view of this, your US$250,000.00 (Two Hundred and fifty Thousand United States Dollars) cheque would be released to you by our fudiciary agent in Jakarta Indonesia.Our Fudiciary agent will immediately commence the process to facilitate the release of your check as soon as you contact him. All participants were selected randomly from World Wide Web sites, email adresses and guestbooks through computer draw system and extracted from over 100,000 individuals and companies. This promotion takes place annually and it is sponsored by Sultan of Brunei, Bill Gates of Microsoft and his associates to encourage the use of internet and computers world wide. For security reasons, you are advised to keep your winning informations confidential till your claims is processed and your cheque delivered to your nominated address through an approved delivery officer appointed specially for this program. This is part of our precautionary measure to avoid double claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by some unscrupulous elements. Please be warned. To file for your claim, please contact our fiduciary agent: BARRISTER AHMED HAMZA Email: barristermoh_hamza2006@hotmail.com OFFICE +62 2198767687 MOBIL PHONE +62 8170821362 To avoid unnecessary delays and complications, you are to contact BARRISTER. AHMED HAMZA with the following details 1. Your full names, contact address,age,private telephone/fax number and occupation. 2. quote your Ticket number in any correspondence with us or our designated agent. Winners under 18 years of age will be authomatically disqualified. Congratulations, once more from all members and staffs of this program. Thank you for being part of this promotional lottery program. Our special thanks and gratitude to Sultan of Brunei, Bill Gates of microsoft and all his associates. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, CONTACT YOUR FIDUCIARY AGENT DIRECTLY. Sincerely, MRS. 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